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About 1 and half weeks ago on 25cent machine 9/5 JoB playing free play casino provided got a royal flush - sequential on about the 10th 'pull', played BJ and won about $40 and went home after about 35 minutes of play. Then, last week, put $100 into a 50 cent BP machine and hit another royal. Was about even to this point after playing BJ, craps and VP for 7 hours. Nice couple of weeks. Gonna be in vegas in about 3 weeks - hope luck continues, but will probably just be giving back to them.
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That Greektown casino was in bankruptcy court.
I've persistently heard strange rumors about Greektown having been operated in such a manner that it was financially bleeding so as to have forced it into the bankruptcy court.
While you were there did you notice any persistently late bettors constantly winning at the craps tables?
andiamo
They have been in bankrupcy court for some time now, I think they are going to emerge soon though. I have watched craps a few times and played about 4 times at Greektown. I can't say I saw late bettors taking advantage, but I wasn't watching for that. The tables are always packed. At the small craps table where you have to sit down, I've noticed they are pretty strick with the protocol, calling off rolls if you even look like you tried to set dice, or if you do not appear to be sitting completey down. Very awkward to play. At the big tables nothing seemed unusual. I'll probably be down there today, maybe I'll watch some.
I am not sure why they are in trouble financially, although we have 3 casinos in detroit that are within about a mile of each other not to mention Ceasers Windsor right across the Detroit river
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I just returned from a little mini-vacation in Detroit (strange place to vacation, I know, particularly in winter--but I'm crazy like that :-). First went to Greektown and unfortunately didn't have very good luck, lost $100 playing Pai Gow Poker, another $100 on Blackjack Switch, and the remainder of my bankroll (about $400 total) on craps. Dealers didn't seem like the happiest bunch either--though if their employer is bankrupt as reported it's somewhat understandable.
Took out another $300 and went over to the MGM Grand where, in addition to being a much nicer place IMO, I did a lot better. Won $250 on craps and another $200 on BJ Switch. Didn't get a chance to check out Motor City so can't comment, maybe next visit.
Not only did I not notice late bettors in craps, but they were MUCH stricter on late betting than what I'm used to. At the casino I work at, pretty much any bet made before the dice are in the air is fair game, but at both casinos in D-Town the boxpeople refused to book center bets once the the dice went out of the center, even just sitting in front of the shooter.
Two more things I noticed. First, the craps dealers at both casinos seemed to be fairly new, lots of mistakes and the game moved pretty slowly. Being a new dealer myself I can understand, and even gave me a bit of hope. Second, both casinos have hop bets on the layouts, and for some reason they are very popular with some players--another reason why the game moved so slowly. At one point the hop & center action got so ridiculous that the stickman said 'This is not a roulette table!' I thought that was pretty funny.
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Wow interesting article. I wonder at what point they decide you are a 'winner' or 'skilled player' and need to be barred? I didn't notice a date for this article, when was it written?

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I just returned from a little mini-vacation in Detroit (strange place to vacation, I know, particularly in winter--but I'm crazy like that :-). First went to Greektown and unfortunately didn't have very good luck, lost $100 playing Pai Gow Poker, another $100 on Blackjack Switch, and the remainder of my bankroll (about $400 total) on craps. Dealers didn't seem like the happiest bunch either--though if their employer is bankrupt as reported it's somewhat understandable.
Took out another $300 and went over to the MGM Grand where, in addition to being a much nicer place IMO, I did a lot better. Won $250 on craps and another $200 on BJ Switch. Didn't get a chance to check out Motor City so can't comment, maybe next visit.
Not only did I not notice late bettors in craps, but they were MUCH stricter on late betting than what I'm used to. At the casino I work at, pretty much any bet made before the dice are in the air is fair game, but at both casinos in D-Town the boxpeople refused to book center bets once the the dice went out of the center, even just sitting in front of the shooter.
Two more things I noticed. First, the craps dealers at both casinos seemed to be fairly new, lots of mistakes and the game moved pretty slowly. Being a new dealer myself I can understand, and even gave me a bit of hope. Second, both casinos have hop bets on the layouts, and for some reason they are very popular with some players--another reason why the game moved so slowly. At one point the hop & center action got so ridiculous that the stickman said 'This is not a roulette table!' I thought that was pretty funny.

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I agree, MGM is much nicer than Greektown and Motor City. I also witnessed some new craps dealers who didn't seem to know how to pay out the right winning bets and had to have people helping them, but I guess if they are new some of this is to be expected. Was at both MGM and Greektown and did not due well at either place. I have never had any luck at MGM, lost $160 at MGM and $400 at Greektown after about 7 hours of play - mixed it up between BJ, Craps and JoB VP. Got absolutely hammered at VP, maybe one 4 of a kind the whole time - was never up. Up maybe $25 on craps after 3 sessions. Broke even at BJ.

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